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	<title>Comments on: Sex &amp; God: Accepting the Sexual Soul</title>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Cain</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-1698</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly Cain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - I love it!!! It&#039;s going to take a little time to read through your posts, but please keep doing what you&#039;re doing. I&#039;ve just released my first novel, Heaven, about the nature of God as seen through the eyes of Eve, an exotic dancer. I think you could have written some of the scenes! I&#039;d love to send it to you for a review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211; I love it!!! It&#8217;s going to take a little time to read through your posts, but please keep doing what you&#8217;re doing. I&#8217;ve just released my first novel, Heaven, about the nature of God as seen through the eyes of Eve, an exotic dancer. I think you could have written some of the scenes! I&#8217;d love to send it to you for a review.</p>
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		<title>By: alex green</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-1261</link>
		<dc:creator>alex green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Robert. It really does help. It gives me much food for thought. You&#039;re a smartie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Robert. It really does help. It gives me much food for thought. You&#8217;re a smartie!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-1222</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex—I&#039;m glad to hear from you.  I was really hoping to hear comments like yours, and that&#039;s part of the reason I&#039;m writing for Sex and the 405.

The essence of being a Christian is to hurt like Hell: even Jesus wept.  As Christians, we long for God like an absent lover, who visited us once—long enough for us to know each other in the flesh—and then has left us with a promise to return to us sometime in the future.  We are to be in solidarity with the oppressed and the poor—do you think that is all roses and cherries?  Being a Christian, we reject the validity of self-satisfaction under a legalistic checklist; we also refuse the life of whim and detachment.  We live in an unresolvable tension between the &quot;already&quot; and the &quot;not yet&quot; of God&#039;s salvation.  In short, being a Christian is a rough road, and a lot of things hurt like Hell.

The Christian question is—is it worth it?  You are binding yourself to this person in some sense: at the profane level, this person will now become a part of your personal history and thereby be a part of what defines you; at the sacred level, the two of you will have shared a kind of proto-communion.  Is the expression of God&#039;s goodness through sex worth that kind of commitment?  Is having sex with this person an act you can take before God in the eschaton with integrity and without shame?

In this whole conversation, it is also important to also remember that we should not be stumbling blocks for our brothers and sisters—even if we understand sex to be a reflection of God&#039;s goodness, if someone else thinks it to be a sin, we need to be respectful of that (c.f. 1Corinthians 8; Song of Songs 2:7).  This is not to say that we necessarily need to just pander and validate it in some kind of relativistic move, but we need to be sure we aren&#039;t destroying others through our actions.

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex—I&#8217;m glad to hear from you.  I was really hoping to hear comments like yours, and that&#8217;s part of the reason I&#8217;m writing for Sex and the 405.</p>
<p>The essence of being a Christian is to hurt like Hell: even Jesus wept.  As Christians, we long for God like an absent lover, who visited us once—long enough for us to know each other in the flesh—and then has left us with a promise to return to us sometime in the future.  We are to be in solidarity with the oppressed and the poor—do you think that is all roses and cherries?  Being a Christian, we reject the validity of self-satisfaction under a legalistic checklist; we also refuse the life of whim and detachment.  We live in an unresolvable tension between the &#8220;already&#8221; and the &#8220;not yet&#8221; of God&#8217;s salvation.  In short, being a Christian is a rough road, and a lot of things hurt like Hell.</p>
<p>The Christian question is—is it worth it?  You are binding yourself to this person in some sense: at the profane level, this person will now become a part of your personal history and thereby be a part of what defines you; at the sacred level, the two of you will have shared a kind of proto-communion.  Is the expression of God&#8217;s goodness through sex worth that kind of commitment?  Is having sex with this person an act you can take before God in the eschaton with integrity and without shame?</p>
<p>In this whole conversation, it is also important to also remember that we should not be stumbling blocks for our brothers and sisters—even if we understand sex to be a reflection of God&#8217;s goodness, if someone else thinks it to be a sin, we need to be respectful of that (c.f. 1Corinthians 8; Song of Songs 2:7).  This is not to say that we necessarily need to just pander and validate it in some kind of relativistic move, but we need to be sure we aren&#8217;t destroying others through our actions.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: alex green</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-1218</link>
		<dc:creator>alex green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Robert, I&#039;m in total agreement with you. But that fucks me. Because I&#039;m a full blown Jesus freak with an enormous appetite for sex (which I believe is wholly devine) and I&#039;ve been fortunate enough to be dating complete non-losers as of late.

The idea that our soul is connected to our body is quintessential to the reasoning for God saying to wait until it&#039;s final. Because the physical act of sex is the uniting and tying of our souls and it will (obviously) hurt like hell if we later rip those souls apart by the physical seperation of our bodies.

So what do I do with that in this time in this country? Hm, Robert? What?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Robert, I&#8217;m in total agreement with you. But that fucks me. Because I&#8217;m a full blown Jesus freak with an enormous appetite for sex (which I believe is wholly devine) and I&#8217;ve been fortunate enough to be dating complete non-losers as of late.</p>
<p>The idea that our soul is connected to our body is quintessential to the reasoning for God saying to wait until it&#8217;s final. Because the physical act of sex is the uniting and tying of our souls and it will (obviously) hurt like hell if we later rip those souls apart by the physical seperation of our bodies.</p>
<p>So what do I do with that in this time in this country? Hm, Robert? What?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Augustine&#039;s a bit late to the game: I&#039;m studying the Cappadocians right now (a century before Augustine), and they&#039;re already pretty firmly in the Neoplatonic camp and believe you have to get away from the body&#039;s vicissitudes and tune yourself to &quot;higher&quot; things to be spiritual/holy.

Origen was the earliest one (that I know of, anyway) to really push the spirit-in-a-human-suit idea — but he also had the idea of reincarnation and angels getting bored of Heaven, so he&#039;s an interesting one on a lot of counts.  He ended up being declared a heretic about a hundred years after Augustine&#039;s death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Augustine&#8217;s a bit late to the game: I&#8217;m studying the Cappadocians right now (a century before Augustine), and they&#8217;re already pretty firmly in the Neoplatonic camp and believe you have to get away from the body&#8217;s vicissitudes and tune yourself to &#8220;higher&#8221; things to be spiritual/holy.</p>
<p>Origen was the earliest one (that I know of, anyway) to really push the spirit-in-a-human-suit idea — but he also had the idea of reincarnation and angels getting bored of Heaven, so he&#8217;s an interesting one on a lot of counts.  He ended up being declared a heretic about a hundred years after Augustine&#8217;s death.</p>
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		<title>By: Anaiis</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-913</link>
		<dc:creator>Anaiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting: I have always held Augustine accountable for this. I look forward to a moment free of deadlines to pick your brain further on the matter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting: I have always held Augustine accountable for this. I look forward to a moment free of deadlines to pick your brain further on the matter!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-911</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, in many ways Augustine never really left the Neoplatonist camp, and without a doubt he is a bulwark of body-deriding thought in the Christian church tradition.  It&#039;s important not to give him too much credit/blame, though—the Christian tradition already had a well-worn groove along these lines, I *think* stemming from Origen, the most influential heretic in Christian history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, in many ways Augustine never really left the Neoplatonist camp, and without a doubt he is a bulwark of body-deriding thought in the Christian church tradition.  It&#8217;s important not to give him too much credit/blame, though—the Christian tradition already had a well-worn groove along these lines, I *think* stemming from Origen, the most influential heretic in Christian history.</p>
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		<title>By: Semper</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>Semper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting! I just started re-reading Saint Augustine, who definitely played a part in the soul/body separation, influenced as he was by the Neoplatonists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting! I just started re-reading Saint Augustine, who definitely played a part in the soul/body separation, influenced as he was by the Neoplatonists.</p>
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		<title>By: Anaiis</title>
		<link>http://sexandthe405.com/sexual-soul/comment-page-1/#comment-905</link>
		<dc:creator>Anaiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, you have eloquently expressed such a huge part of my beliefs in such a well-crafted piece, I don&#039;t really have words to respond just... whoa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, you have eloquently expressed such a huge part of my beliefs in such a well-crafted piece, I don&#8217;t really have words to respond just&#8230; whoa.</p>
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